Alone, PAS can't impose hudud
'PAS can go on dreaming about implementing hudud and ignore the reality of the multi-religious composition in the country.'
Hudud: Pakatan leaders to discuss on Wednesday
Anonymous_40dc: Accepting hudud is part and parcel of Islamic faith. One cannot be a Muslim while rejecting hudud just as one who claims to be Muslim but reject the compulsion to pray five times a day, fast during Ramadan, perform haj and pay the zakat.
Once a person testifies he/she is a Muslim, he/she must accept Islam in toto - there is no cherry picking.
The essence of hudud is not to chop off heads and hands. The essence is justice to the victims, offenders and society at large. As Kelantan MB Nik Aziz Nik Mat said, the justice system is of paramount important in the implementation of syariah justice.
You must have judges who are God-fearing, unlike our judges who have no fear of Allah - subservient to the leaders in power even at the expense of bending the truth and accepting untruths to fix political foes.
It appears that hudud is akin to a ‘ghost' - people are fearful of it but do not know what it is.
Anonymous: PAS has said it very plainly - it will implement hudud laws if it is allowed to do so. I respect that stand even though I'm opposed to this. They are being honest.
Myrights: This is a clear show of former PM Dr Mohamad Mahathir's cunningness in leading the Pakatan Rakyat leaders to a trap, and they fell for it.
Some people may condemn Mahathir for this, but I think he did us a favour to expose this beast hidden in the PAS agenda just waiting to be let loose.
Nik Aziz, and even the supposedly savvy Anwar Ibrahim, all fell for it. Good! Now I demand Pakatan to have a good answer on this issue before the next GE.
I thought my vote was already firmly in Pakatan's hands after all the PAS ‘welfare state' comments, but now, I will reassess my position based on their response.
Nothing is more sacred to me than my rights as a non-Muslim and perhaps even to my Muslim brethren, who don't want to be governed by hudud.
I hate corruption and lies, but I despise the thought of living a life governed by barbaric punishments, and the denial of fundamentals of self-expression and personal freedom.
Anonymous2: If this was an Islamic country we would not be having this discussion on having secular laws.
That is how one-sided this issue is and no amount of reasoning and debate will change a thing. So if we compromise and allow hudud laws to be implemented then we, the non-Muslims, will lose out.
Umno-BN are supposed to be fair to all races and faiths, but in actuality they have not done so. If strict Islamic laws were to be in place, nearly half of them will be having their hands or head chopped off.
Proarte: If PAS and PKR do not retract their hudud plans, then DAP has no choice but to leave Pakatan and form links with other parties which will not violate the Malaysian constitution.
If Umno reforms and aims to create the 'best democracy', then I think DAP should not rule out linking up with Umno to help them achieve the 'best democracy'. Well, the ball is in PKR and PAS court.
Kit P: An Umno leader once told me that the surest destructive weapon they had to catalyse a break-up of Pakatan was to taunt PAS into reviving the hudud issue. Out comes the Quran wavers in PAS, the Wushu warriors in DAP and the Keris wielders in PKR - all lurking just below the surface.
And Pakatan will easily lose a significant amount of support from left, right, and centre as a result. I'm wondering with a heavy heart if I may be forced to put an ‘X' to the ‘dacing' in GE13.
PAS, DAP and PKR public outbursts over hudud don't give me confidence they are ready for Putrajaya. Umno-BN is happily united in corruption, so hudud is just superficial matter in BN, one way or the other. It is Pakatan which may engineer its own destruction.
Tkc: When you have two opposing sides that think that they need to ‘out-Islam' each other in order to gain power, it can be pretty confusing for non-Muslims because most of us do not understand what the fuss is all about.
As it is, we have adequate laws in place, be it conventional or syariah. Why do we need hudud when we know that the laws per se are not the problem but it is the human beings that interpret and apply them that are the root cause?
Frankly, as an independent, I am very disappointed in PAS in this latest controversy. Let's face it, PAS is doing this because they think that they are losing their traditional core supporters. The big question is whether they are indeed losing those supporters or whether it is just a perception?
If PAS perseveres with this nonsense and Pakatan cannot say categorically that they are not going to repeat this hudud song like a broken record, I would most likely stay home in the next election.
Fairplayer: Is hudud the most important part of life for Malaysians? Are there no pressing issues facing the ordinary men and women on the street? Please focus and concentrate on the real needs of the people, shall we?
The debate on hudud, once again
Siapa Saya: Though institutional Christianity has been as capable in forcefully controlling the lives of the faithful in past centuries, Christianity fundamentally is a choice.
The Muslim understanding of God and free will is quite different. Hence punitive punishment and the right of religious authority to enforce compliance to syariah.
It is very difficult for a Muslim individual to opt out of the norms of community and society. Malays who opt out do it quietly, and most stay overseas. There is too much public cacophony about conforming, too much personal heartache for family ties.
Yet in looking at the crowds of ordinary Muslims every Friday at prayers, one wonders what the fuss is about.
That is the reality of the failure of Malaysia, that the winds of discord are not emanating from the bottom-up, but by political cliques from the top-down. That is the failure of government and nation-building in this country.
Black Mamba: Non-Muslims, are you saying that if you are against hudud law you will vote for Umno-BN?
Do you think Pakatan, if after taking over Putrajaya, can just implement hudud law without going through a debate in Parliament?
Do you think Umno and the other Sarawak and Sabah coalition parties will take it sitting down and let PAS vote this through Parliament?
And you haven't discounted the fact that DAP and PKR will collectively block it. PAS can go on dreaming and ignore the reality of the multi-religious composition in this country.
Even if Kelantan wants to implement hudud, can it get the necessary amendments in the federal constitution? No!
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