'Let's see if the Appeals Court will rule otherwise. We know the gatecrashers were guilty but in Malaysia, the guilty - as long as connected to Umno/BN - can get away with it.'

Apcet II: Detainees win suit, gov't ordered to pay

Paul Warren: Well, there has to be a semblance of justice, isn't it? But give the Appeals Court some time. And then there is still the Federal Court, isn't it? So please don't cork the champagne just yet.

X'roy: The government should now sue Umno for dragging it into this mess and that is the only right thing to do. To burden the innocent taxpayer is manifestly wrong.

Micheal Lim Choon Hui: Don't worry, they can always appeal to the Court of Appeal. Then it will be ‘decision overturned', and end of story.

Rocky: Well done. But let's see if the Appeals Court will rule otherwise because that is the trend. We know the gatecrashers were guilty but in Malaysia, the guilty - as long as connected to Umno/BN - can get away with it.

Thuraisingham Shun: A great day for democracy. However, the government has to answer for the delayed justice for the judiciary has delayed in hearing this case.

Ayatollah: I should learn a thing or two from your esteemed country. Darn, over here in Teheran, the opposition punks are demonstrating everyday, seemingly without fear.

Can you send that ‘Krismmuddin' home minister fellow to lecture my Revolutionary Guards and also my judicial officers on how to use your very effective ISA and sedition charges methodology?

Wira: Okay, so the government is in the wrong. If they appeal, they'll further corrupt the judiciary. If they don't, they use our tax money to pay the plaintiffs. Either way, the rakyat loses.

Malaysians must put a stop to the rot

Kickderobbers: Goodwill triumph over evil.

SunShine1: I have met many people who complained of this and that of the government. I'm so sick of them complaining that I ask ‘Did you vote?' and most of them sheepishly said ‘No'.

Struggle we must. Struggle we should. We must heed Raja Petra Kamarudin who is appealing to each and everyone of us to get at least one (the more, the merrier) new voter to vote for a government bent on eradicating corruption.

Teh: For too long, the majority has been silent. Their silence was taken by those in authority as agreement, submission and approval of their unbridled plundering of the country's wealth for their selfish gains.

Their silence nurtured and emboldened these greedy leaders, making them arrogant and disrespectful of the people. Not anymore. Cyberspace is now filled with the cries and voices of the ‘silent' majority. We want change. We expect change. We will make change happen.

Habib RAK: Yes, P Ramakrishnan, you have been one of the many who have been taking an active role in asking for change. But to claim that "If only I had known that they would take my suggestion so seriously, I would have said: ‘Change the government'" is a bit too much la .

Be a little modest. When leaders go on ego trip, it's a put-off. Nevertheless, do continue your good work.

Worthwhile Kiwi lesson for our public service

Playfair: We must accept that the Malaysian government has to act as an ‘employment service' for those unemployable elsewhere - that is the only explanation as to why the civil service is so bloated and full of perks. This serves as Umno's power base for the retention of political power.

The civil service and Umno's objectives are commonly identified and intertwined. For evidence, look at the Perak fiasco, all the privatisation projects, the behaviour of the judiciary, the police, etc.

Applying the New Zealand ECA (Employment Contracts Act) in Malaysia would means loss of jobs, livelihood, etc, and consequences with severe political ramifications including loss of political power for Umno. Is that not the reality?

Otherwise how does one explain the persecution of the ‘turn-coat' Anwar Ibrahim and the free use of state institutions against anyone seemingly resembling the ‘opposition' which represents disagreeing with Umno?

SalSuleiman: If only we could really adapt the virtues of other ‘best practices', we would not be as we are today. Look like we seldom continue to prolong the effect of any change acquired. Yes, we have made some changes but the attitudes and the mentalities remain status quo and the relationships that are contracted with the other branches of the government remain the same.

I believe we have spent millions trying to upgrade the public service in the country but has any study being done to carry out the impact of change behaviourally on public sector employees? There maybe studies deploying a few hundred thousand ringgit but are there any follow through to ensure we have tuned up?

The ‘Malaysian Inc' concept where the public servants are working together with the private sectors to create a development-based environment to promote growth in the country was the best we have tried, but did we make it happen? I must say there have been good leaders but hardly any good followers in the public service.

Inquiry on Dr M - 'Najib wouldn't dare'

Kgan: The call for a royal commissions is symptomatic of the lack of trust in all our law enforcement agencies such as the police, the MACC and the Attorney-General's Chambers. A case like Teoh Beng Hock should not have been the target of a commission but it is. Public confidence in our enforcement agencies has gone down the gutter.