'This is a strategy used by by BN, time and again. They will pit the Malays against the non-Malays and the Muslims against other faiths.'

Christian conspiracy: Special Branch link suspected

Anak Malaysia: Are the Christians in this country that foolish? If they have an agenda to turn Malaysia into a Christian nation, would they invite a Buddhist politician, accompanied by a Muslim political party member, to witness their alleged controversial, ambitious and far-reaching plans?

Wouldn't it be much more likely that they hold a top secret meeting where attendance is rigorously screened? Let's apply some basic common sense please.

Quigonbond: The problem is not that DAP is accepting people from other parties. The problem is that the institutions of governance in this country is so partisan and corrupt that they are not able to enforce laws fairly.

That's why people could be bought over by money politics and the briber faces no investigation nor prosecution. That's why Utusan Malaysia can get away with the most inflammatory headlines but not Sin Chew Daily or Tamil Nesan .

I hope DAP member Mohamed Razali Abdul Rahman comes to his senses. Disappearing is not a solution, and in fact it shows that the Special Branch is complicit in cooking up this crisis.

I urge all rural folks to wake up and see Umno/Perkasa/Pembela/Utusan/MCA for what they truly are - abusers of power, corrupters to the core, racists and extremists who are morally decayed. If the mainstream media were to report fairly and professionally, I doubt many will vote for BN.

Cannon: It's a fact the Special Branch (SB) has a special unit that is dedicated to monitoring the activities of the various religions in our country, particularly, Christianity. SB's Christian personnel are known to attend Sunday worship services of various churches.

Christians are not troubled or worried by such intrusions. It's not as though they wear one mask in pubic and reveal another face behind closed doors. The SB can sniff and snoop all they want to look out for conspirators, they are only chasing the wind.

Good men: This whole controversy is a payback because Sarawak churches/Christians wouldn't play ball shortly before the Sarawak state election. The churches declined to fully endorse Minister in the PM's Department Idris Jala's 10-point solution, as it was just another politically motivated tactic with no sincerity.

Now Christian Malaysians are being made to pay, while Umno conveniently stir up tension before GE13. I sincerely hope it backfires big time.

Anonymous: Why did Razali tagged along when Jelutong MP Jeff Ooi made the police report? Was he thinking that Ooi was going to give himself up? And days later, he lodged his own version. What is his story?

Declaring Christian state before a Muslim 'illogical'

Changeagent: There is no doubt in my mind that the Christians are being persecuted because they are small in representation, making up only 10 percent of the population, yet visible enough to cause an opinion or reaction among the rural Muslim voters.

What better way for the Umno-led government to position themselves as the gatekeeper and defender of the Islamic faith in the country, never mind the fact that the threat is purely imagined or that there is no plan at all to undermine the position of Islam as the official religion in the first place?

It is becoming clear that this is all a game to score political mileage with the rural Muslim voters, who constitute a much larger voting base, at the expense of the few token Christian votes that have already been written off by the government.

JBGUY: The whole episode is a sham. It was done to discredit the DAP and to get the Malays united. This is a strategy that has been widely used by the belligerent BN government, time and again. They will pit the Malays against the non-Malays and the Muslims against Malaysians of other faiths.

It has worked in the past because the majority Malays have always been gullible enough, but now most Malays are educated and are exposed to the real going-ons and are not as pliable. Umno needs to come up with a better strategy soon.

Ashvin Raj: Other non-Christians were at the dinner with the pastors and their testimonies were consistent. It is indeed illogical to declare a Christian state in front of them. It's clear that Utusan is desperate to cover up their lies with the help of some agents.

But syariah lawyers welcome Parliament bypass

Anonymous 2: Bypassing the state assembly and Parliament with regards to syariah laws is a dangerous thing. For example, what if the laws were to be extended to non-Muslims with regards to any dispute that involves conversions or if it is remotely perceived to infringe on the status of Islam.

If the state assembly or Parliament has no powers to review those laws that are passed that negatively impacts non-Muslim rights, we will again be accused of undermining or insulting Islam.

The federal constitution is clear that syariah law does not have any jurisdiction over non-Muslims, but we have people like Pembela and Perkasa who will argue otherwise, based on their biased and narrow views.

I can see that eventually creeping Islamisation will happen and the syariah law will be promoted to the same level as our current legal system and the country's secular laws, which would mean non-Muslim will then be subjected to syariah law.

David Dass: It is so tragic. People in the Middle East are dying for parliamentary democracy, and here we have a group of so-called professionals who want to dismantle it for Muslims.

The principle objection taken by the proponents is that non-Muslims should not be involved in the making of law applicable to Muslims. The fact of the matter is that the bulk of all laws made in Malaysia applies to all, regardless of faith.

And the process adopted in the formulation of Islamic law ensures that such law is formulated, scrutinised and reviewed by Islamic scholars. The Malay rulers are also required to approve such laws.

Good Men: Muslims and non-Muslims alike must stand up as one to reject such an authoritarian idea. How many people sit on the National Council of Islamic Affairs of Malaysia (MKI) that will decide on laws for the entire Muslim population? And who elected them?

Lim Chong Leong: Now, please don't be ridiculous. We are a civil and civilised nation where we keep our religions to ourselves. What you do on this earth is between you and your maker, as when I die my maker, and not you, will judge me.

Just how wise is the Council of Rulers when they themselves are involved in government awarded projects?

James Dean: Any suggestions to pass laws any other way than as provided by our constitution and practised by our Parliament borders on treason.

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