VOXPOP 'If the police is apolitical and fair then they should charge this rumour monger, Mohamed Razali Abdul Rahman, for making a false report.'
Christian-state plot exists, insists ex-DAP man
Fade2grey: Islam is the official religion of state as specified by the constitution. It takes at least two-thirds of Parliament to amend the constitution.
If there is indeed a plot to turn Malaysia into a ‘Christian state', how do these conspiracy theorists proposed that this be done? Via a constitutional revolution?
How is fewer than 10 percent of Malaysians going to persuade the other 90 percent (who are of different religious backgrounds) to vote in favour of a ‘Christian state'?
What is a ‘Christian state' anyway? Is it a situation where the country is ruled by the pope?
Could PM Najib Razak have been speaking to the pope about surrendering power to the Vatican? Unless that is what is happening, I cannot see how this plot can come into fruition.
Ferdtan: The police have cleared the air - there is no such thing as a Christian state plot. If the police is apolitical and fair then they should charge this rumour monger, Mohamed Razali Abdul Rahman, for making a false police report.
DAP, or the Christian NGOs, should also sue him to teach him a lesson.
Henry Hock: Mohamed Razali, can you describe in detail:
1) what are the circumstances that you concluded there was a plot?
2) how is the plan going to work?
3) what is the strategy of DAP and/or the Christians to make it work?
If you are unable to explain, these questions, I don't think there is a plot unless the Christians are just too stupid building castles in the air, hoping blindly to have a Christian state.
David Dass: This happens when everyone is recruited to protect Islam from the Christian threat. The ignorant and the mischievous see threats behind every tree. The authorities are in danger of losing control to kooks and mobs.
We then see the worst type of political activity - when anything is justified - because the end game is to win elections, at all costs.
If the Malays are conditioned to believe that Christianity represents a real and present danger to Islam and Muslims, then there can never be peace between Muslims and Christians.
Can the government allow this to happen? Other nations have gone down this road and the result is always chaos and mayhem. Do we really want to go down this road?
Devout Christians interact daily with equally devout Muslims as they do with Buddhists and Hindus and Sikhs, etc, without any incident - and without any of them thinking and feeling that their religious beliefs are being compromised.
Passerby: Mohamed Razali, please stop all these nonsense. Haven't you done enough damage to embarrass all Malays and Muslims alike with your lies? These kind of allegations, right from the beginning, is not even believed by the rakyat.
Slimboy: You were there, Razali? You, a Muslim, was privy to a plot by the DAP and Christians to create a Christian state?
PAS will not join anti-apostasy rally
Onyourtoes: The organisers of this rally are smart. They want maximum turnout, so they say it is non-political to allow supporters from both sides to attend.
They said it's really about Muslims and Malay unity. My next question then is, unity for what - for a more united and inclusive Malaysia or for a more exclusive Malaysia?
What is this fear of proselytisation all about? Who got converted and how many? Is proselytisation real or is it orchestrated to create another fissure within the Malaysian society?
I think it is easy for one to fathom who is behind this rally, judging by the relative ease the police permit was secured. PAS, you must educate, inculcate and enlighten the people, not appease and keep them in their ignorance.
MfM: PAS is playing it smart. Their statement is clear, they will not be participating as a political party, but that does not stop its members from attending in their personal capacity.
PAS wins both ways. Their members can show they support the movement, but officially the party is out of it. They have decided not to play the Umno game.
I am against apostasy but I believe that the apostate is the one that should be punished accordingly to syariah law. Even if a non-Muslim incited it, the person has a choice - to remain a Muslim and strengthen his iman (faith) or to apostasise and face the consequences.
If they believe this so-called Christianisation movement does exist, why not move to strengthen dakwah amongst the Muslims first?
Ashoka PJ: PAS, you made the right move even though I have this gut feeling that the decision was made with the intention not to lose anymore non-Muslim and even Muslim votes rather than being against this rally.
As Muslims, we will be judged by our niat (intention) amongst others, so please make sure you walk to talk. Don't be a lallang. I am a Muslim as well as a PAS supporter and I like to keep our perspective straight and clear.
Swipenter: The latest population census confirms that there is not a single Malay Christian. But Perak mufti Harussani Zakaria, alleges that more than 250,000 Malays have converted to Christianity or left Islam for some other faith.
The Home Ministry has also confirmed that there is no Christian conspiracy to make Christianity the official religion. If that is so, what is this anti-apostasy rally all about?
This is nothing but a naked attempt by Himpun organisers and their backers to advance their political interests by playing the triple cards of race, religion and Malay royalty, to intimidate non-Muslims and the minorities.
It is a wise decision for PAS not to get involved in this anti-apostasy rally even if I don't believe their stated reason for not joining in.
We all know which political party expediently uses the race, religion and Malay royalty card to hold on to political power if and when it suits them.
Compass: I salute PAS. I respect the right to hold a rally. I also respect the right not to join one.
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