YOURSAY 'And where do the Orang Asli fit in this logic of Isma?'

'World must recognise M'sia belongs to Malays'

Hopeless Govt: Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia (Isma) says the Malay civilisation is older than Angkor Wat and the Borobudur. What a clown you are.

Can you show proof of recent research showing that the Kedah Tua Malay civilisation in Lembah Bujang dates back to the 2nd Century BC, thus confirming that the civilisation there is older than archaeological and historical sites such as Angkor Wat in Cambodia and Borobudur in Indonesia?

Ace: Wow, what a super brilliant historian. In school, we were always told that the cradles of civilisation were based in the Tigris/Euphrates Valley, the Indus Valley and the Hwang Ho Valley. Now these Umno-sponsored 'historians' are rewriting world history.

RKR: If Malay civilisation is older than the Chinese, how come more than 90 percent of Malay words originated from Sanskrit, Latin, Arabic and a host of other old languages? Besides, a large part of Malay culture is synonymous with the Hindu-Buddhist-Sino culture.

Isma should not make foolish statements which are factually wrong. I am not sure if their 'revelation' can even convince the ordinary village folks.

Supercession: Resorting to pseudo-intellectual arguments to justify Umno hegemony hardly cuts it these days.

In the first place, if anyone is to be recognised as the original owners of the land, it will have to be the indigenous people whom Umno has infantalised, marginalised, oppressed and treated as almost animals without rights.

If we are to go by the constitution, then we are all equal owners of the land. Even delusional Umno-supported members of Isma, who claim to speak in the name of Islam but in fact sully it, have a place under the Malaysian sky, which is far from saying we all ought to worship them as masters, as much as these crazies would like us to.

CQ Muar: This brainless specimen make other Malays laugh at his sheer stupidity. For more than a century, we Malayans, now Malaysians, had never ventured to declare this country belongs solely to the Malays.

Isma's Abdul Rahman Dali must have just awaken from wrong side of the bed with such a statement, and even quoted a few countries to substantiate his ‘rationale’ or ‘logic’. Little did he realise that Malaya gained independence owing to the effort and pursuits of all - Malays, Chinese, Indians and others.

Mr KJ John: Tanah Melayu was named after the Malay seafarers; but ownership is no more than coastal occupation and the jump from 'Melayusia' to Malaysia is a very long leap of logic; which appears to exist in small quantities and doses in this Isma leader.

And where do the Orang Asli fit in all this logic?

Lim Chong Leong: So now the Malays predate the Orang Asli too? Why are they also referred to as Bugis, Javanese, etc, then? Is it because they came from these places even before the times of Borobudur and Angkor Wat?

NH Gong: This is very true - Malaya belongs to the real Malayans - the Jakuns, Senois, Negritos, Semelai, Mah Meri, Orang Asal, Orang Ulu. Will the rest of you please pack up and go back to wherever you came from?

I wish to nominate and vote for a new prime minister who is truly Malaysian - an Orang Asli.

Sali Tambap: And the Jews can claim that the land that is now Palestine belongs to them because it was the land belonging to the kingdom of the Hebrew kings thousands of years ago.

And according to this logic, England should expel all the non-English ethnicities, Germany will expel the Turks who make up nearly two million of its population, or France should expel the Arab population in their country instead of being equal citizens of the country.

I don't know why we give these people publicity. They should be ignored.

KR: The Bujang Valley does date back to the 2nd Century, however research has shown that it was a civilisation based on Hinduism and Buddhism. Is Abdul Rahman suggesting that the early Malays were Hindus and Buddhists? If so, then wouldn't they be 'real' bumiputeras?

His statement further suggests, to my understanding, that the Malay race suddenly appeared out of thin air and became the inspiration for other races. This shows how much is he lacking in intelligence.

I feel we need to have office bearers in NGOs carefully vetted to ensure we never have to endure such statements. Nonetheless, I believe if he can scientifically prove any one of his absurd claims, the world will stand up and agree that “Malaysia belongs to the Malays”.

Doc: Okay, if Isma's claim that Malaysia is for the Malays, then what about the Bidayuh, Dayak, Iban, Kadazan Dusun, Orang Asli, Melanau and other bumiputeras?

Will they also be relegated to ‘pendatang’ status like the Chinese, Indians and Indian Muslims? Care to elaborate, Isma? Also Isma, are Indian Muslims considered Malays or Indians or what?

Fair&Just : If this is the case, Malaysia should be divided into Malaya, Sabah and Sarawak and Malaysians (to be extinct soon) shall choose and decide to live in Malaya as Malays, in Sabah as Sabahans or in Sarawak as Sarawakians.

If such is the scenario, Sabah or Sarawak shall be my first choice.

Vgeorgemy: By this statement Isma seems to be encouraging or wanting Sabah and Sarawak to secede from Malaysia as Isma wants the world to recognise a Malaya only for Malays.

Umno’s long rule hasn’t produced any quality leadership to take the nation further away from bigotry and fascist thinking. I am so sad and angry in seeing such wastage in educational development by the Umno-led administration in the last 57 years.

Anonymous #40538199: Malaysia belongs to Malaysians. Nobody questions the special position of the Malays but the rights of all citizens, regardless of racial origin, must be recognised, protected and honoured.

Citizens must not be treated as ‘pendatang’ (immigrants) whether they are Malay or not. The government should not fund any group that does not recognise and respect the constitutional rights of all Malaysians.

Angel: Isma, according to our constitution, a Malay must be Muslim. Those civilisations you mention are before Islam came, hence they cannot be Malays by the same definition. Furthermore when a Kedah candi was torn down, why didn't Isma speak out against it?

Clearwater: Perhaps early humans did not migrate out of the Great Rift Valley in East Africa to populate the world, but out of Bujang Valley in Kedah.

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