So Umran Kadir quotes from Khaled Abou El Fadl. Well, El Fadl also did mention it was misguided for others to issue declarations about Islam without having mastered the requisite knowledge and training.

In this respect, I invite Umran, who has been making a lot of pronouncements on Islam, to reveal to us what fields of knowledge on Islam he has mastered and what training he has undergone. El Fadl also said, 'Those who want to go beyond personal piety and become authoritative sources of authority for the community ... there is no alternative to learning - rigorous and thorough learning'.

So please Umran, enlighten us on that so we can consider your views. El Fadl also said, "To say, 'Well, I can interpret God's will from a translated copy of the Quran, that's enough. I'll just read the translated Quran and I'll decide what God wants'. [...] is a violation of diligence, comprehensiveness, probably self- restraint, and probably reasonableness as well".

So please tell us Umran, did you study and master Arabic? Or are you one that El Fadl warned about when he said, 'For the average Muslim, the usual Muslim, they are not to pretend to be teachers'.