vox populi small thumbnail FREE VOXPOP The ruler has called for the Jais-DUMC chapter to be closed, therefore those seeking the limelight and continuing to harp on the issue must be put in their place.

 

 

Anti-apostasy rally group pumped by sultan's decree

Disbeliever: The Sultan of Selangor's recent statement has opened the flood gates for "Christian battering".

If indeed there was attempted proselytising of Muslims, charge the minority involved. Do not say there is not enough evidence.

The sultan's recent statement has caused unnecessary worry among the Christians and has fuelled Muslim NGOs to speak out (at most times without sense) against Christians.

I am afraid there will be no end to this issue as one Muslim NGO after another will seek the limelight to project itself as defender of the faith.

We Christians are God-loving people who just want to live in peace and harmony among Malaysians of all faiths and cultures and at the same time, we request to be allowed to practise our faith without hindrance or "threats".

Until and unless the sultan issues a statement for the closure of this issue, there will be no end to this. Ampun Tuanku.

Anak,bangsa,malaysia: The report should not have come from Jais as it could be biased. An independent report is the way to go.

For now. this statement from the sultan has given rise to a demonstration by the Muslim NGOs. Can the sultan do anything about this and advise the Muslims to calm down?

What about the reports from the 12 Muslims who attended the dinner? Did the sultan ask for them? What about a report from DUMC?

The sultan, as the head of Islam must be fair and must be seen to be fair because not only the Muslims are his subjects but non-Muslims too. Senator Ezam Mohd Nor and company must obey the sultan as he wants this chapter to be closed.

Lbl: The Sultan has decreed that this matter should end. Umno wants to continue this matter. Who is footing the bill for all these rallies?

Jiminy Qrikert : This constant barrage of attacks against non-Malays and non-Muslims has been going on for the last two years.

NONE Starting with 'pendatang' and a barrage of insults against our ancestors and our women, against Chinese, Indians, Hindus, Christians, they have been toggling between baseless accusations followed by outright terror attacks and stoking the siege mentality in Malays, hoping to spark a firestorm that engulfs the whole country, allowing BN-Umno to stomp right in with martial law and the indefinite suspension of Parliament.

I pray the rakyat will not be that stupid to allow BN such an opportunity. We do our fighting in GE13!

1M: Do you believe that Umno Senator Mohd Ezam Nor is so religious? Do you think he cares? No, this is all politics, orchestrated by none other than Umno, an indication that GE13 is near. The rally on Oct 22 will be very peaceful, because Christian groups will not interfere with them.

If it becomes emotional and causes racial hatred, it will all be their own doing.

Hanyayangbenar: They are not the voice of the majority of Muslims. These so-called Muslim NGOs are only puppets of their political mastersm mainly from Umno to instil hatred towards other faiths and to sow distrust among one another.

As long as these religious bigots have the blessings from the Umno higher echelon, the problem will never end.

Murthi Katherason: We must unite and help ‘Himpun' because they are uniting for anti-apostasy. I sincerely wish I could join them and stop anyone from converting anyone. Everyone must stick with their own faith.

Jaguh: The sultan meant well. But his message and actions have been misused by this group of has-been opportunists to try and get some publicity.

The only people who will back them are equal losers. Why even bother to be afraid of apostasy when one is a strong believer of one's own religion? This is really getting ridiculous - or rather, hilarious.

Gerard Samuel Vijayan: The Christians in East Malaysia should also hold their rally in Kuching or Kota Kinabalu to protest against the conversion of Christians in both states to Islam through threats, intimidation and bribes without the knowledge of family and friends.

They should also protest against the Islamisation agenda in the East Malaysian states. Islam is not the state religion in Sarawak and in Sabah, the Muslims are not the majority.

The Christians have a right to publish the Bible in Malay, use the term ‘Allah' to refer to their God and to protect their faith and places of worship from interference by Muslim religious authorities.

But unlike these extremist Muslim NGOs with their racist and religious bigotry agenda, the Christians are docile, dignified, peace loving and sensible.

The Christians will show their displeasure come GE13 and without the 55 seats from East Malaysia, Umno can kiss goodbye to forming the federal government and pursuing its Ketuanan Melayu agenda.

Anonymous_3f15: ...check how many Malays got converted officially? Also check how many Christians got converted to Islam?

Obedient Wives Club courts controversy with sex guide

NONE Chuath: One cannot help but pity the Jews. What have they to do with a women's club tucked away in some small country? The club members surely can do whatever they like behind closed doors, without thinking about the Jews! So funny-lah, this country.

1M: Do what you want to do about training your women to become sexually competent, just leave the Jews alone. They have nothing to do with your husbands going to prostitutes!

I wonder whether Jais or the vocal NGOs will say anything about this, and will there be another decree?

Cintaman: If what the Obedient Wives Club is saying is true and they can really prevent husbands from straying and visiting hookers, why not allow non-Muslim women to have access to such goodies as well?

Then we will really have a nation with good morals.

Ashoka PJ: I am curious. What did the Jews do that prompted this club to recommend fighting them to return Islamic sex to the world? What is Islamic sex by the way? Where can I buy the book?

Indian M'sian swing to BN elusive

Md.Noor Sulaiman : My advice to Indians is to stay out of the next general election if they are sure that they are not going to vote for BN/Umno. If you think BN/Umno is bad, Pakatan is even worse as they do not even value your Hindraf.

Karma: The fact that BN cares so much about Indian votes now is because it wants to stay in power. It now knows Indian votes matter a lot because the Malay and Chinese vote banks have dwindled.

The BN also knows it is easy to please Indians just with schools and temples. Wait till BN comes back to power and Indians will know BN will never change. MCA and Gerakan are struggling today. But MIC is relaxed because it perceives that Indians are voting for BN again.

Mr KJ John: Only when MIC finds the political will to say no to Umno will the more informed Malaysians of Indian heritage return to BN. Not otherwise!

Docs: As an Indian myself, here is my take on the Indian voters: They are divided into three groups. (a) The minority of educated or smart Indians. Most of these have climbed up the socio-economic ladder all by themselves with whatever skills they have - brains, education or good business savvy. This group is anti-BN and despises MIC.

(b) Those Indians that are members of BN component parties like PPP and MIC that make a living from the crumbs that fall from Umno's table. They will vote BN and try to persuade other Indians to vote BN to keep their financial lifeline going.

(c) The ordinary Indians. They make up the majority of the Indian Malaysian population and have been marginalised by the government.

Their voting pattern is based on emotion. At the time of the election if BN's (empty) promises are more interesting they will vote BN. A walkabout by PM Najib to an Indian enclave and a RM50 ang pow can sway them to BN. A Hindraf-like protest can sway them to Pakatan.

Lakia: Indian Malaysians are like the natives of Sabah and Sarawak. Najib talks all the time about 1Malaysia Rakyat Didahulukan (IMalaysia, People First) but on the ground the natives of Sabah and Sarawak are losing their customary land everyday to the BN and its cronies, the big tycoons.

It is these tycoons who are didahulukan under Najib's 1Malaysia. The natives of Sabah and Sarawak are supposed to be bumiputera and given special privileges and protection by the government. But under BN, they became landless and squatters on their own ancestral land.

The Indians will be worse off, for they are not even accorded such protection and privileges like the Sabah and Sarawak natives. Even the ordinary Malays suffer the same fate. It's Umno/BN that is the sole source of our problems.

So vote Umno/BN out once and for all. Our immediate neighbour, Thailand, just voted out the previous ruling party and brought in a woman from a new party as the new PM. Thailand did not go bankrupt or chaotic. Nor did it collapse.

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