VOXPOP 'I see four future leaders in these students - it does not matter if they are political, business or even social leaders.'

Ex-UKM students: Detained, like in a Tamil film

Jimmy Ng: Since when has our nation become a police state? As for these fine young upcoming citizens, we salute them for standing up for what they believe in.

In so doing, they have also changed the course of history for higher education undergraduate students' involvement in nation building. Syabas!

MfM: I see four future leaders in these students - it does not matter if they are political, business or even social leaders, they have shown they have what it takes to stand up for what is right.

It's high time our students come out and learn more about the world. We need to produce graduates that are not just workhorses, but who are able to be creative and innovative in the way they work.

Swipenter: Student activism is part and parcel of getting a rounded education and gaining experience to prepare for the real world once they finish their tertiary education.

Not Confused: Go for it, UKM4 - I think the entire country is behind you.

These university security goons were acting like the mafia and it is time their activities are stopped and outlawed, together with their collaborators in the police force.

Expose the entire episode for everyone to see and get whatever you can out of it.

Mirror On The Wall: If the UKM4 represents even a tenth of all the university students in Malaysia, then all hope is not lost for the future. But if they are an exception, then we are facing a sorry future.

Koh wants Pakatan to be consistent on postal voting

Wira: Dear Gerakan president Koh Tsu Koon, don't you understand that Pakatan Rakyat is demanding what many Malaysians want - a reformed postal vote system in which Malaysians everywhere can vote in confidence?

Why can't you understand that the two proposals of electoral reforms are not necessarily mutually exclusive? Why can't we have both?

Nik V: I think this statement by Koh is incorrect. Pakatan Rakyat, as many of us have read, approves postal voting in principle, if fairly carried out.

No rakyat is against the armed forces voting through postal votes. What the rakyat find fishy is how all these votes are conveniently distributed in areas to help garner a sufficient majority for BN.

Our voting system needs to be reformed in order not to benefit any political party.

Chin Tu Lan: What we want is to allow overseas citizens to vote. Who says it must be through postal vote? Voting can be done at Malaysian embassies or consulates around the world.

Voting can also be done early, for example, a week before the final voting day. The votes can be then sent back or counted at the embassies. The votes can subsequently be tabulated in its respective constituency.

This is done by a lot of countries, such as in Australia. So stop giving excuses.

Chong Abdullah: Malaysia always claims to be more advanced than Indonesia in many things. But at least Indonesia allows its citizens to vote at Indonesian embassies. Malaysia is much behind Indonesia in this.

Or is Malaysia more afraid of its citizens abroad voting for the opposition?

KLeo: Make sure the majors in the army camps and the police chiefs in the police stations don't 'handle' their subordinates' ballot papers and we will be happy.

But Koh is right, Pakatan has been calling for the dismantling of the postal vote system. Overseas voters are obviously a different category so it's time Pakatan clarifies their stand.

Tell the Truth: Obviously overseas voting has to be on a postal vote basis. Why should we have postal votes for locals who are around in the country? Even if they are to be on security duties, they can always take turns to vote.

It is not undoable if EC (Election Commission) wants to do it. However, it is obvious that they want to cheat with postal voting.

DannyLoHH: There's nothing inconsistent about Pakatan position. Do the army personnel really needed to do postal voting? Are they really outstationed?

On the other hand, Malaysians residing in overseas really needs postal voting to exercise their rights as enshrined in the constitution.

Also, postal votes in army camps and police stations have been on the receiving ends of too many allegations of irregularities, and worse: vote stuffing and rigging.

Koh is the one trying to spin, twist and confuse people on the issues at hand.

Malaysians Are Not Stupid: Mr Inconsistent is asking others to be consistent.

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