YOURSAY 'Why is it always the case that parang-wielding people are charging at the police? Does anyone believe the cops?'

Eyewitness: Cops shot unarmed man point blank

your say Odin: This incident sounds like a scene right out of the movies ‘A Fistful of Dollars', ‘For A Few Dollars More', ‘The Good, The Bad and The Ugly', etc.

When an unmarked car blocks your car and a few men in ordinary clothes climb out of it, what would go in your mind?

And if the cops are the baddies and you attack them, you are deemed wrong. We are never right; the police always are.

In this case, the police did not even identify themselves and shot without warning. And when we learn that the one shot was Indian, we aren't in the least surprised.

Yap CS: Why is it always the case that parang-wielding people are charging at the police? You would think the so-called 'criminals' seeing the police holding guns and taking into account so many shoot-to-death incidences, that one would not have done that. Does anyone believe the cop's explanation?

AkuMelayuIslam: I never believe the police versions of any incidents involving the PDRM (Royal Malaysian Police), and I'm pretty sure the majority of Malaysians feel the same.

Dumb&Deaf: D Dinesh operated a series of carwash outlets. It is the sort of business that cops are fond of extorting money.

Dinesh looked like the type who would refuse to pay and threatened to report them. It's also possible that one of the cops was involved in a rival carwash franchise.

We need a full independent investigation to get to the bottom of the case. One thing is for sure: PDRM (Royal Malaysian Police), the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC), the Election Commission (EC) and Umno are all in the same laundry bag, about to be sent to the Great Carwash in the Sky.

KD: This seems to be the regular police spin. Can Suhakam initiate its own inquiry and be proactive on the matter?

Pemerhati: Some time ago several senior police officers alleged in their sworn affidavits that inspector-general of police Musa Hassan had links with the underworld but no action was taken against him.

Prior to that the BBC too had alleged that an underworld leader had told them that his organisation had a cosy relationship with the police.

This cosy relationship between the police and the criminals, whereby the police get a share of the profits of the underworld from its various activities such as prostitution, gambling, loan sharking, car thefts, etc, is a win-win situation both for the police and the underworld. The victims are the general public.

In this case, Ampang Jaya deputy police chief Md Nazri Zawawi said that Dinesh was part of a gang involved in loan sharking.

The loan sharks and other criminals who pay regularly to the police can harass and even harm the hapless victims with impunity as the police will close one eye. But the competitors of the criminals, who do not pay the police, are eliminated by the police, and Dinesh could be one of them.

Sabahan: Obviously the "devil" has entered the police force and evil is being spread everywhere. Let us pray for protection and change.

P Dev Anand Pillai: Despite all this, the Indians still seem to be believing what ‘Nambikei Najib' has to say.

There seems to be no respect for Indian life; an Indian is presumed to be of suspicious character, and may be criminally inclined, so it has become a standard operating procedure for the police to shoot first and then make up a story later.

Progressive: The police cannot be investigating the police. This has gone too far. Now we have to fear the very police that has failed to protect us. An independent investigation by a impartial party is the needed. Fifty-five years of abuse in enough, it's time for change.

Mahathirigoingsmental: Rising crime attributed to Indians as an underclass is undeniable. Police brutality against Indians because of this is undeniable. Marginalisation of Indians as an underclass, because of their minority status, is undeniable.

In such a pathetic situation we have Hindraf, Makkal Sakthi and Human Rights Party (they include P Waythamoorty and P Uthayakumar) still sucking up to Umno-BN is unfathomable.

Kgen: Indians have been at the receiving end of police brutality more than the other races. The police will only be brought under control with a change of government.

Despite this, some Indian leaders with ambitions of personal political power are confusing Indians with things like "Pakatan is as bad as BN".

If you want social justice, help get rid of BN first, then make your demands. Threatening to split Pakatan's votes just because you are not given what you want is just helping BN in an underhanded way.

Bersih@428: How stupid can Indians be to ever believe Najib and his call for ‘nambikei' (trust) in his leadership? These police, the instruments of Umno, shoot as they like, time and again. And yet all these previous similar incidences have been swept under the carpet.

Not one murder by the police has been acted on, its investigation delayed and eventually forgotten, or declared ‘no further action' by the attorney-general.

MIC is silent to all this, they are instead more concerned with stories of which safe seat its party president is going to contest. Hindraf too is silent, and instead wants to contest wherever Pakatan is contesting to dilute the one-to one fight so that BN can eventually win.

Indians must do what it takes to convince the Indian masses to vote 100 percent for Pakatan, and kick out any MIC or even Hindraf candidates together with their Umno and MIC candidates. Enough is enough.

Oscar Kilo: Hello police, I want to believe your version of the story but you need to be more convincing and professional about it. There are too many corrupt cops already.

All of my encounters with the police have been negative. My default mode is to disbelieve the police, unfortunately.

Ferdtan: Nobody deserves to be killed - even if he looks like a gangster. Until the police come clean (which they don't often do) the suspicions are always there. We have gone there before, hence the distrust.

The police had always been consistent on the onset of most such controversies, that is, without proper investigation, they invariably issue out press statement intending to damage the reputation of the victim by way of character assassinations.

This is the ugly truth - the police have lost the trust from the public. They have to start building bridges between them and the public by first being truthful even if it hurts them initially. They have cried wolf too many times, so the public are wary of what they say.

2Be or Not 2Be : It seems like the rakyat will need to protect themselves against the legal ‘samseng', the PDRM. What is happening to my Malaysia?

Manipulated crime statistics to show low crime rates doesn't mean no crime. As Merdeka Day approaches, do I feel proud to be Malaysian? Do I still feel safe to live in Malaysia?

The above is a selection of comments posted by Malaysiakini subscribers. Only paying subscribers can post comments. Over the past one year, Malaysiakinians have posted over 100,000 comments. Join the Malaysiakini community and help set the news agenda. Subscribe now .