INTERVIEW
 
 Observations made by a number of Bersih 3.0 participants during the April 28 rally are that many of the policemen on duty that day were somehow different from the usual courteous officers and men patrolling neighbourhoods.


 Their uniforms did not have the shiny numbers and name tags, which spruce up the men in blue. And it was many of these officers, the protesters said, who had beaten them up.


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 The widespread occurrence of this, Bersih co-chairperson A Samad Said said, seemed to concur with the belief that the actions were endorsed by higher powers.


 "They had no name tags, they wore no identification serial numbers... many were like that. My interpretation is that if the police did not want to show their names and ID numbers, then it meant that they already had ill intentions.


 "Since so many were like that, certainly their move must have been endorsed by a higher power, possibly the inspector-general of police (IGP). And if the IGP knows, then the home minister should should know, too," Samad said in an interview with
 
 Malaysiakini
 
 earlier this week.


 The police, he said, had a right to arrest protesters who refused to go home after the 4pm deadline but when 10 or so policemen beat up one person, it could be so severe that "even a buffalo will die".


 Despite widespread allegations of
 
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 brutality
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 on the part of the police,
 
 
 fortunately there was no death during the protest.


 
 Pak Samad's solo 'duduk bantah'
 




 Samad, who is fondly referred to as Pak Samad, too, had his brush with police on his way from his Bangsar Utama home to Masjid Negara.


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 "When I got down from the LRT at Pasar Seni, I wanted to cross the bridge that I have always used to get to Masjid Negara. However, there were dozens policemen blocking the route on that day.


 "I explained to them that I've used this path for years to go to Masjid Negara for prayers and as Muslims, they should not prevent another Muslim from praying... but they refused to let me pass," he said.


 This, he said, led to his one-man 'duduk bantah' on the bridge near Pasar Seni to protest the police action.


 Police later left the scene, without reason, and Samad was then accompanied by other members of the public who sat alongside him.


 "We chatted and I also recited some poems. Later, I advised them to head for Dataran Merdeka," said Samad, who proceeded to Masjid Negara and remained there to do his prayers and keep and eye on the situation.


 Asked to respond to claims by former prime minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad and several former inspector-generals of police that the Bersih 3.0 protest was intended to topple the government, he laughed and described these individuals as "remnants of power".


 
 &lsquo;All we had were water bottles'
 



"To overthrow power, there must be weapons... we only had water bottles," he said, laughing.

 While he admitted that it "may be right" not to allow politicians to speak in a future Bersih rally, Pak Samad denied allegations that the movement had been hijacked by Pakatan Rakyat politicians.


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 "We invited Pakatan and BN but they (BN) chose to distance themselves. Perhaps they felt that since they are in power, this movement would bite them," he said.


 Contrary to the allegations of hijack, he said support from political parties would strengthen any people's movement.


 "In any movement, be it in Burma, in Russia, in India, in Eastern Europe or anywhere, there will always be leaders with a political background," he said.


 The authorities in Malaysia could have felt that their power was being threatened and therefore embarked on a campaign to smear Bersih as a violent movement.


 "Maybe the attention will be on those being charged (with taking part in Bersih 3.0), but do not forget, every time you talk about them, it will be linked back to Bersih and to our eight demands (for electoral reform)," he said.


 Despite the controversy, Samad said, he was heartened by the turnout for Bersih 3.0 as it was also more racially balanced, unlike previous Bersih rallies that were dominated by the Malay community.


 "If there is a Bersih 4.0 - and I am not saying there will be one - I think even more non-Malays will turn up because the system is in such a bad shape now, with the use of gangsters by a power that is coming to its tail end," he said.


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 Part 1:
 <a href="http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/198784" target="_blank">
 'Then there was Hang Tuah, now Hang Samseng'
 </a>


 Part 2:
 <a href="http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/198919" target="_blank">
 Ambiga a victim of race and religion, says Pak Samad
 </a>

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 INTERVIEW

The men on duty did not display name tags - perhaps on the orders of higher-ups, says the national laureate.

Police appeared to have bad faith, says Pak Samad

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